where governor romney talked about closing loopholes. but that's not going to get us where we need to go. in terms of revenue, we have to put real serious revenue on the table and that's why the president is being more specific about this idea of raising rates which a strong majority of americans, which includes republicans and independents agree with. so the far right at some point. >> 60% in the exit polls. >> that's right. including 63% of independents. and you've got a situation also, the exit polls show that about 53% of americans thought romney was going to be protecting the wealthiest americans. the republican party's got to be very careful not to get itself locked into that narrative again. >> and that might be why, david, speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, kevin mccarthy are working to keep them on the outside of the circle as they negotiate this deal. do you think that's true? >> no. no. first off, having worked with the speaker for many years, he's got everybody involved in these negotiations and everybody knows wha